A 3rd year I know said he generally gets about 50-55 hours a week, this being at one of the busier county ER's. Posted by 3 years ago. Ended up liking psychiatry more (go figure) and doing that instead. You must enjoy what you do to sustain a surgical schedule. I try to actually log my hours honestly and I can say I have not gone over 80 in a very long time. Family Medicine is one of the shorter paths in medicine - 4 years of undergraduate work, 4 years of medical school, and then 3 years of residency. we do one month of 12s as interns to try it out, 12s are the worst; 10s are infinitely better, would rather do 18 10s than 15 12s (both 180 hours) for sure. He says hes glad he went into surgery though. *Home call: Responsible for about 10-20 patients on average but have an intern or PGY2 in house. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. ... the medical cousin of the surgical FIRST trial, to come out before making changes across the board for both surgical and nonsurgical specialties? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. On days when I’m attending on the hematology consult service, I’ll meet up with my team of fellows, residents and medical students at 8 a.m., round, see patients, and teach until the late morning. I know the senior in my program aren't working as many hours as our vascular fellows, that's for sure. No targeted harassment against individuals, organizations or other reddit subs. Submit a guest ... in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced … Volume of calls overnight obviously dependent on time of year and patient acuity, but can range anywhere from getting woken up hourly to not getting called at all. And here I am as a gen surg intern doing 14 hr shifts almost daily. Lol you knew what you were getting into. My work days are on average 12 hours days and work about 75hrs per week. First year residents allowed to work 24 hour shifts starting July. Specialty? It’s arduous, but it’s what we signed up for, and the lifelong benefits are well worth the temporary efforts. Medical Examination for Residency You can complete your medical examinations regarding the issuance of a residence visa at a medical examination centre near you, which provides you with service in the least time and effort. I work 6 days a week while on wards, do wards 8ish months of the year. A lot of the academic programs have enough volume that the residents stay busy. 5. In between all these things I have to find time for the following: Then meet up with them again in the afternoon and see more patients and teach until sometime in the evening. More often, I'd say 80-90hrs a week is quite normal, with occasional variation down to 70hrs or 100hrs. As an ortho resident working 110 hours a week, this post makes me sick. He said he could see himself doing EM but he like surgery more so he did surgery. May 3, 2004 2,389 2,087 ... antisocial types come in late at night. I work 6-6 x 6 days a week = 72 hrs/wk. Find out what it’s like to specialize in physical medicine and rehabilitation. Five years later I packed up my things and walked out. ... in 29 hours. That being said, between studying (about 30-40 hours per week), class, and clinical work, there are little pockets of completely free time to be discovered and treasured. 258. I get 4 days off a month. I wake up at 4:30am and I dont get home til 6:30pm. So, without further ado, let’s get started with our tips on how to survive being on-call and working overnight as a medical resident (and beyond): Feel Comfortable. Even with the work hours. Choosing your specialty is an important decision. Medical students, like me, submit applications to hospitals and health systems where they would like to work. Menu. In contrast, general surgery is 61 and IM is 56. well, I went into the hospital on July 1st. Emergency medicine training also enc… Dr. Claire Wolfe shares insights on her field of practice, work/life balance and more. Colin Son is a neurosurgical intern who blogs at Residency Notes. I almost went into surgery because I had so many good experiences as an M3 and M4 (did a surgery elective). The dream. We have no spot to meet up and run lists, nowhere to sit down and eat while working, and nowhere attendings could (if they wanted to) do teaching. On average, I worked 11.1 hours each day: 8.46 hours per day if I was on scheduled shift work such as in the emergency department or urgent care and 12.93 hours per day if I was on Inpatient Wards. I've heard this advice but when I asked the surgeon I'm shadowing if its actually good advice he said that not necessarily. ... Work hours should be further restricted. So 1 matches to C and Mr 3 is left holding his dick in his hands. 30+ emails a day of scheduling/vacation/other BS), Plan for upcoming week's case and clinic assignments to ensure all staff happy, Actually read and learn some stuff about surgery (not done learning yet...), Try to exercise and keep my fitness level from further decompensating, (Most important/time consuming) take home call on my service for ~300 days out of the year. Medicine resident here at large academic institution, top middle tier program. 13 12-hour shifts this month, 4 hours of conference on Thursday mornings. Residents work 40–80 hours a week depending on specialty and rotation within the specialty, with residents occasionally … 2. UMass Medical School-Baystate COVID-19: Learn about the vaccine, testing, visitor restrictions & more. We work hard but we have a good program and when you are a senior it's pretty damn hard to go over 80 (i.e. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And 3 calls of the month are nights. Emergency medicine is the specialty that focuses on the recognition, evaluation, and care of patients who are acutely ill or injured. Lifetime Donor. 80-90 hours so far. What medical residents should know about clinical trials Resident physicians need to know about the ethical standards that come with clinical trials. Depends on the service . We’re not just talking about donning your comfiest pair of scrubs or shoes here. why the fuck do you people have so many patients?????? I'm a ENT intern, but I'm on a gen surg service right now and I, for the life of me, struggle greatly with remembering all the details for 10-15 patients. Non-residents asking for any advice about residency programs should post r/medical school or in another subreddit. We're also trained to work in either a hospital or in an outpatient office, although many (not all) will choose one or the other. Cant name and shame cause I’m not done with residency but my program does not have a resident work room. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the medicalschool community. on medicine wards (IM), I'm working at least 12 hour days, and 14 hrs on call days q4, 6 days a week. Close. Often fun and always rewarding hopefully but like any training program difficult at times. Press J to jump to the feed. Gen surg intern here. Conduct of medical examination . The resident doctors will also require to be on call duty not exceeding 12 hours at a time. Our interns do 17-18 shifts per month. Threads like this make me have serious doubts about pursuing a surgical specialty. Overnight: Home call*. Intern going into a surgical sub, but current on vascular getting worked pretty hard. I don't regret my decision. if you're not taking frequent in house call). That being said I have mad respect for all you guys and the hours you do. I remember him telling me he'll end up averaging 60 hrs a week over the year. (At least not for him.) 70-90 hours a week, usually on the higher side if I'm night float. At my medical school, call responsibilities were pretty minimal, and pts with any sort of medical stuff just weren't admitted to the … Physician. First-year residents were restricted to 16-hour shifts, while more senior residents could work up to 28 hours. Replied by on topic Re: Ortho Residency Programs Now Ranked by US NEWS That is a ploy by Doximity to get ortho residents and … You want the scratch, you do your time. Medical resident work hours refers to the shifts worked by medical interns and residents during their medical residency. Didn't feel like a person by the end I was so disoriented. Develop an understanding of the different types of physicians in a hospital including medical students, residents, fellows, and attendings. Dr. Claire Wolfe shares insights on her field of practice, work/life balance and more. wont get many answers because they are all working. Average day (as a chief): 5:15 AM wakeup, coffee, get ready, check the EMR to pre-review vitals/labs on patients6:00 AM rounds7:00-7:30 AM call attendings to discuss plans on existing inpatients7:30 AM First start of the day for OR cases4:00 PM thru 6:00 PM (depending on OR schedule) finish last case of dayImm after - PM rounds6:00 thru 8:00 PM go homeWhatever time I get home thru 10:00 PM - read up on patients, prepare for OR cases, eatOvernight: Home call*. Home Education, Research & Faculty Healthcare Education Medical Residencies Emergency Medicine Residency Current Residents New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the medicalschool community. 6. We have to try to use the nurses station computers or move a bunch of cows into a room nobody’s using. Overtime is 40 hrs/wk. Super jealous of my friends in radiology that seemingly get EVERY weekend off, but I get to help crack chests open so there's that. ... and how much of their work is devoted to education rather than independent practice. Sometimes more sometimes less depending on if they're doing a lax community rotation or something more demanding. I've met 4th year residents who have really easy schedules or do a lot of moonlighting, but even then it's not exactly a part-time job. Flexible hours, no night calls, patients who rarely … According to the study protocol, the primary hypothesis of the research addresses the safety of patients: it assumes that 30-day patient mortality under the increased residents’ duty hours (allowing shifts of 30 or more consecutive hours) will not significantly exceed patient mortality under the current mandated standard for medical residents on duty (for first-year residents, a maximum of 16 … Yeah when I did my er rotation hours weren't too bad but the flipping made everything worse. And then there are the ortho and plastic surgery residents in Korea typically working 120+ hours a week during their first year while occasionally getting beaten up by their seniors. Groove Member. In between all these things I have to find time for the following: keep up on updates for the existing inpatients throughout the day from interns/PAs/NPs, Field various calls from high maintenance attendings to micromanage the patients, Educate/involve/entertain the medical students, Review labs/pathology reports for recently operated on patients, Manage administrative chief duties (i.e. Then, if they like what they read, residency committees invite us for interviews. I wake up at 4:30am and I dont get home til 6:30pm. I'm on trauma right now so it's easily 110-120hrs. I work on average about 70–80 hours a week. 4:00 PM thru 6:00 PM (depending on OR schedule) finish last case of day. on medicine wards (IM), I'm working at least 12 hour days, and 14 hrs on call days q4, 6 days a week. Press J to jump to the feed. In fact, a recent study shows that moderate sleep deprivation — after 17 to 19 hours of wakefulness —can produce impairments similar to those of … Welcome to /r/MedicalSchool: An international community for medical students. Yeah it's hard, but so is any other job that eventually pays you a six figure salary (lawyer, consultant, banking, etc). It is a high-pressure, fast-paced and diverse specialty that requires a broad base of medical knowledge and a variety of well-honed clinical and technical skills. If you can see yourself doing ANYTHING besides surgery, do that. Imm after - PM rounds. I dont get how someone can do this for 5 years + 2 more. If I liked anything else, I would be doing something else. Some will also work in urgent care centers or nursing homes. Welcome to /r/MedicalSchool: An international community for medical students. At the same time, program directors submit to the NRMP a list of applicants, ranked in order of preference, whom they have interviewed and wish to train. My old roommate told me he worked like 20 hours last week (pgy1). 15+ Year Member. For the other half, there was no limit on how long residents could work. It's cliche, but cliche for a reason. Does it get easier? And 3 calls of the month are nights. I have a wife and baby at home. That being said, its hard. 6:00 thru 8:00 PM go home. As per the rules of the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education in the United States of America, residents are allowed to work a max of 80 hours a week. 7. Archived. I personally find it to be a fairly negative experience. I get 4 days off a month. MFW a classmate says they want to become a surgeon. Since I spent 9 out of 12 months of the year doing inpatient rotations, this translated to approximately 60 to 80 hours per 6-day workweek for most of the year. Now I go home by 4:30 every day and work 1 Saturday or (yes, or) Sunday a month on call. My fellow resident is getting some of my floor work done but none of my notes. How would your program answer … Some days and weeks are busier than … The emphasis is on pre-hospital care and the acute care aspects of the other specialties. I think even career wise Vascular is known to be hard core. Whatever time I get home thru 10:00 PM - read up on patients, prepare for OR cases, eat. New or anonymous accounts are allowed but must be reviewed which can take up to 24 hours. An AMA education module aids that teaching process. The averages come out to 72 hours per week as attendings. Reply. ... 18 hours ago. The people making these rules have financial incentives to continue to take advantage of residents. It's damn common here in Korea with medical specialties working 80-90 hours for the first 1-2 years and surgical specialties working 100-130 hours for the first 1-2 years. Develop an understanding of the different types of physicians in a hospital including medical students, residents, fellows, and attendings. Gen surg? Basically working every other day. Even in psych, you're not working 40 hours, especially during the first two years. Emergency physicians treat all age groups in a myriad of conditions with varying degrees of severity. Services Offered at the Centres Printing of Residence visa forms. Means we get 6 days off, which is more than most of our colleagues, but we have way more flip days/nights/weekends, so it pretty much evens out. The … In summary, after almost a month of chief year: Hardest but best year yet!! As a non traditional student with a family, who enjoys what he does every day, I can say I made the right choice, but had I gone to med school 5 years younger I probably would have chosen surgery and loved it too. Despite our relatively few in-class hours, medical school does take up a frighteningly large proportion of your time. 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